What does it really mean to design for everyone? In this episode, I sit down with Doug Kim and Anna Cook—two leaders at Microsoft—to talk about what inclusive design looks like in practice. We dig into why accessibility isn’t just a checkbox before development, how diverse teams shape better products, and the real challenges designers face when things get messy.

Doug shares lessons from his time guiding cloud design, and Anna brings a fresh perspective on building for impact. Whether you’re new to design or deep in the trenches, you’ll walk away with new ideas that you can start applying right now.