This is Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Rob Colbert, a practicing therapist and participant in the MAPS MDMA-assisted therapy study. In this episode we go even further down the rabbit hole addressing the roots of drug prohibition and its failure to reduce the social harms of substance abuse... and maybe it was never meant to... If you enjoyed part 1, or were maybe even challenged by it, be sure to listen in as we dive into some of the questions and critiques listeners raised after our first conversation. Do we really want to be more open about drug use as a culture? Does creating access to taboo substances only propel more people to experiment with substances like heroin? And what percentage of drug users actually fit the stereotype of burned out junkies stealing money for their next fix? ...The answers may surprise you. Enjoy!