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Unchurching Podcast
Clint and Rachelle Davis
18 episodes
1 day ago
Because when it all starts to fall apart, you need to know you’re not alone. And there’s just so much more. We’ve lived the church life for decades across four countries. We served, led, taught, preached, and believed … until it stopped fitting. Unchurching is our honest invitation into the wild, sacred journey beyond religion and Christianity. We’re not here to bash church—but we are here to remember who we are beyond programs, pressure, and performance. These are the raw, real conversations of all the wonder, grief, freedom—and those pivotal “what the heck do I do with Jesus now?” moments.
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Because when it all starts to fall apart, you need to know you’re not alone. And there’s just so much more. We’ve lived the church life for decades across four countries. We served, led, taught, preached, and believed … until it stopped fitting. Unchurching is our honest invitation into the wild, sacred journey beyond religion and Christianity. We’re not here to bash church—but we are here to remember who we are beyond programs, pressure, and performance. These are the raw, real conversations of all the wonder, grief, freedom—and those pivotal “what the heck do I do with Jesus now?” moments.
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Religion & Spirituality
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EP16: Learning to Know Nothing - The Paradox of Awakening
Unchurching Podcast
37 minutes 37 seconds
1 week ago
EP16: Learning to Know Nothing - The Paradox of Awakening

In this intimate solo episode, Rachelle explores one of awakening’s most liberating paradoxes: learning to “know nothing.”

She shares how leaving religious certainty opened a wider world of curiosity, peace, and genuine learning—starting with unlearning. From the ego’s addiction to being right, to the freedom of saying “I don’t know,” Rachelle reframes wisdom as a posture, not a pile of facts. She unpacks the difference between religion’s safety-in-answers and awakening’s freedom-in-openness, and introduces a powerful law from her studies: you don’t understand your way into peace—you peace your way into understanding.

You’ll also hear about staying non-judgmental while exploring new ideas, choosing your “teacher” (ego vs. peace), why innocence and curiosity matter, and how free will and openness shape spiritual experience. She closes with a grounding affirmation to carry into your week.

✨ Key ideas:

  • Unlearning before learning: why dismantling certainty comes first

  • Ego vs. peace as teachers: choosing curiosity over defense

  • “Peace first, then understanding”: practicing the paradox in daily life

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🌀 Unchurching is for the spiritually curious, the deconstructing, and the awakening.

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⏱️ Chapters
00:00 – Welcome & why this is a solo episode
02:10 – Clint’s healing update & what’s ahead
04:10 – Unlearning before learning: opening the field
06:35 – Letting go of forbidden books & fear-based limits
09:15 – The paradox: remembering… and realizing you know nothing
11:25 – Curiosity dissolves fear (Day of the Dead example)
13:40 – Religion vs. awakening: safety in answers vs. freedom in openness
15:45 – The ego’s addiction to certainty
16:55 – Study note: A Course in Miracles and conscious reframes
18:45 – “I don’t know” as a spiritual practice
20:30 – When spiritual circles mirror religious rigidity
22:05 – Do I seek peace or to be right? (Non-judgment check)
22:55 – Peace first, then understanding (“peace teaches”)
25:35 – Staying open under criticism; sovereignty for all paths
26:55 – Stillness over study for revelation
27:55 – Willing to learn everything: openness as posture
29:10 – Free will and inviting spiritual experiences
30:20 – Two teachers: ego (attack) vs. peace (inner guide)
33:05 – Stop attending the ego’s class
33:45 – Childlike innocence & curiosity as the way in
35:00 – Summary: returning to innocence, curiosity, peace
36:35 – Closing affirmation

Unchurching Podcast
Because when it all starts to fall apart, you need to know you’re not alone. And there’s just so much more. We’ve lived the church life for decades across four countries. We served, led, taught, preached, and believed … until it stopped fitting. Unchurching is our honest invitation into the wild, sacred journey beyond religion and Christianity. We’re not here to bash church—but we are here to remember who we are beyond programs, pressure, and performance. These are the raw, real conversations of all the wonder, grief, freedom—and those pivotal “what the heck do I do with Jesus now?” moments.