This week on Two Besties with a Mic, Devan and Kelsey welcome their #1 hype woman, queso queen, and real-life bestie, Barb Perez! It’s a heartfelt, hilarious, and honest convo about what it really means to show up for each other—especially when things get messy.
In this episode:
Meet Barb Perez and hear how she became part of the Two Besties crew
The story behind the homemade queso (Barb's love language)
What real friendship looks like as we grow (and grieve)
The difference between being raw and being real
Why curated openness isn’t the same as true vulnerability
How to recognize sneaky control and people-pleasing tendencies
Sitting in the dark with your people, literally and emotionally
Plus: Devan’s weekend daughter, Barb’s legendary quotes, and the vacuum that stole the show
This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever felt alone in your struggles, wondered if you’re oversharing, or craved friendships that feel safe, sacred, and soul-nourishing.
Featuring wisdom like:
“Real friends aren’t the ones who always show up when it’s fun. They’re the ones who sit with you in the dark.”
“Being raw is for safe spaces. Being real is for the world.”
“Perception is reality, but you don’t owe anyone an explanation.”
Tune in now for deep connection, unexpected laughs, and a reminder that you're not alone.
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