Covid-19 and climate change are two hot topic issues we are dealing with in our societies at large, and both phenomena serve as potential pitfalls for the mental lives of those living today. A significant portion of people experiencing mental distress are made worse by the reality of both the pandemic and climate change. Young people in particular often find themselves engaged in catastrophic think and say things like, "it won't matter. We'll all be gone soon anyway." In this episode of Will Work For Purpose, I talk with Mark, who runs the Climactic podcast collective and together we talk about climate change in general, our ethical obligations, and common cognitive distortions such as catastrophic thinking.