The first thing you need to know is that this is a part two of sorts, to an overtourism podcast episode we ran in 2017. You should probably that episode first. But in this week's episode, we check in on places in almost every stage of overtourism—from the brink of discovery (the Azores), to the one who's got it all figured out (Bhutan), to the city potentially past the point of no return (Venice). All while arguing over whether this overtourism problem facing islands, cities, and entire countries around the world will ever have a perfect solution.