David Osborn is a long time participant in the direct action climate movement as well as a faculty member in University Studies at Portland State University. We discuss ways that non-native and settler people (like David and I) might begin to challenge the worldviews and ways of being that they have inherited.  If settler colonialism and capitalism have shaped the ways non-native and settler people see the world, and their places within it, how can they begin to challenge that worldview and develop other ways of being - forming different and more intentional relationships with each other and with the rest of the living world?  In other words, if the climate crisis is a cultural problem at the deepest level, how do members of the settler culture begin to do the work of profound cultural transformation?