In this conversation, Sean Luitjens speaks with Rachel Gibbs from Merities Consulting about the critical topic of pay transparency and equity, especially in light of the upcoming European Pay Transparency Directive. They discuss the definitions of pay equity and transparency, the importance of job leveling, the consequences of non-compliance, and the role of technology in facilitating these processes. Rachel emphasizes the need for companies to start preparing now, the challenges of data collection, and the significance of effective communication strategies. The conversation concludes with advice for HR professionals on understanding business dynamics and the importance of being proactive in addressing pay equity issues.