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Tool Use - AI Conversations
Mike Bird
65 episodes
1 day ago
The latest AI tools and strategies, featuring top builders, entrepreneurs, and researchers. Every Tuesday, get actionable knowledge about AI services that you can use today. - Conversations with AI builders and founders - Practical tips for applying AI immediately - Live demos of cutting-edge AI products - Deep dives into open-source projects Join us as we explore the rapidly evolving AI landscape and discover tools that transform productivity, creativity, and business. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the AI curve
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The latest AI tools and strategies, featuring top builders, entrepreneurs, and researchers. Every Tuesday, get actionable knowledge about AI services that you can use today. - Conversations with AI builders and founders - Practical tips for applying AI immediately - Live demos of cutting-edge AI products - Deep dives into open-source projects Join us as we explore the rapidly evolving AI landscape and discover tools that transform productivity, creativity, and business. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the AI curve
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Are AI Agents Ready for the Internet? (ft Bobbie Chen)
Tool Use - AI Conversations
46 minutes 1 second
1 month ago
Are AI Agents Ready for the Internet? (ft Bobbie Chen)

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Are you ready for AI agents to browse the web? We explore the future of AI agent authentication, web security, and API design in this deep dive. As AI agents proliferate, critical questions arise: how do we handle security without giving an agent your password? How can we make websites optimized for agent consumption? We're joined by Bobbie Chen, a product manager at Stytch specializing in bot and AI agent detection, to discuss the risks and opportunities.


We cover how OAuth can provide safer, scoped permissions for agents, and the emerging open standard Web Bot Auth, which allows agents to cryptographically prove their identity. Bobbie breaks down Simon Willison's "lethal trifecta" of AI security risks and discusses strategies for mitigating malicious behavior. We also touch on the future of AI SEO, how API design must evolve for a hybrid human-agent world, and the potential impact of agents on web monetization and advertising.


Learn more from Bobbie Chen:

Stytch supports Web Bot Auth: https://stytch.com/blog/stytch-supports-web-bot-auth

Stytch Connected Apps (OAuth for AI agents): https://stytch.com/connected-apps

Stytch Fraud and Risk Prevention: stytch.com/fraud

AGI Builders Meetup: https://luma.com/agibuilders

IsAgent SDK for agent identification: https://IsAgent.dev


Additional Resources from the episode:

Simon Willison's lethal trifecta: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta

IETF Web Bot Auth: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bofreq-nottingham-web-bot-auth/

Jon Postel as "benevolent dictator" of IANA: http://memex.org/meme4-01.html

Freestyle Cloud: https://www.freestyle.sh


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00:00:00 - Intro

00:03:25 - The Risks of AI Agents Browsing the Web

00:07:14 - A Bot Registry vs. Open Protocols

00:18:04 - How AI Will Change Web Monetization & Ads

00:35:03 - The "Lethal Trifecta" of AI Security

00:41:25 - Practical Advice for Website Owners & Agent Devs


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Tool Use - AI Conversations
The latest AI tools and strategies, featuring top builders, entrepreneurs, and researchers. Every Tuesday, get actionable knowledge about AI services that you can use today. - Conversations with AI builders and founders - Practical tips for applying AI immediately - Live demos of cutting-edge AI products - Deep dives into open-source projects Join us as we explore the rapidly evolving AI landscape and discover tools that transform productivity, creativity, and business. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the AI curve