Hey guys! This is a little bonus episode leftover from our interview with Norm. We share the story of how we met, dating and Phil's crazy proposal. We hope you enjoy it :] P.S. We don't have kids, it's just a fun title.

You can check out our episode, "Moving to Japan the Right Way", with the Tokyo Lens podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or Anchor.

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