I sit down with my great mate, current A grade backman Frazer 'Frappe' Hayward! This cracker fella has a different start to it with hockey being his choice of game in his younger days before venturing his way into Aussie Rules as a teenager. With some success in colts and senior footy with some tougher times as well. I love Frappe's story with his business stuff too! Great listen and great banter with a great mate! Thanks for jumping on the poddy Frappe!