Cybersecurity or physical security? In a world increasingly driven by AI and IoT, can we truly separate the two anymore? Join us in an insightful dialogue as West McDonald and global security expert Michael Gips delve into the merging of physical and virtual security realms. From exploring the unexpected journey of a death row attorney turned security expert, to understanding the implications of an ever-growing IoT ecosystem on global security assets, this conversation promises to redefine your perspective on integrated security solutions.