This is a fortnightly podcast that explores some of life's biggest questions:
"What do I do now, where do I go next, what do I do with this one precious life?"
Through open and honest conversations with people doing their best work; founders, artists, musicians, and pioneers, we delve into why these people made the choices they did that led them to where they find themselves today.
We all hit moments where the path ahead feels unclear, where doubt creeps in, and every decision feels like a gamble, this is about those moments.
Hosted by Pierre, a strategist and systematic theologian who’s spent years helping people and businesses make their way through the fog. This is for anyone trying to find their way and do their best work. Expect honest conversations, hard-won insights, and real strategies to help you move forward, even when you can’t see the whole map.
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This is a fortnightly podcast that explores some of life's biggest questions:
"What do I do now, where do I go next, what do I do with this one precious life?"
Through open and honest conversations with people doing their best work; founders, artists, musicians, and pioneers, we delve into why these people made the choices they did that led them to where they find themselves today.
We all hit moments where the path ahead feels unclear, where doubt creeps in, and every decision feels like a gamble, this is about those moments.
Hosted by Pierre, a strategist and systematic theologian who’s spent years helping people and businesses make their way through the fog. This is for anyone trying to find their way and do their best work. Expect honest conversations, hard-won insights, and real strategies to help you move forward, even when you can’t see the whole map.
Ep 3/12 || Divorce, Art and Finding your way with Lira van Staden
Through the Fog
1 hour 4 minutes 24 seconds
5 months ago
Ep 3/12 || Divorce, Art and Finding your way with Lira van Staden
In this deeply moving and honest conversation, Pierre sits down with artist, teacher, and divorce doula Lira van Staden.
Together they explore the intersections of creativity, loss, personal reinvention, and what it truly means to find your voice again after life doesn’t go according to plan.
Lira shares her journey from a childhood dream shaped by societal expectations to becoming a celebrated public artist and a compassionate guide for those navigating the pain of divorce. They discuss the cultural narratives around marriage, the subtle early signs that relationships are changing, and how grief can be an essential — and even beautiful — part of starting anew.
This episode is a powerful reflection on resilience, authenticity, and the unexpected paths life asks us to walk.
Get in touch with Lira:
Instagram @divorcedoulafindingaway
Whatsapp: 082 524 5375
www.divorcedoulaway.com
Time-stamped Topics
[00:00] Meet Lira: Artist, mother, and newly minted divorce doula
[02:00] Early memories: How community shaped their friendship
[05:00] Growing up on a farm and early dreams of motherhood
[08:30] Art, identity, and discovering hidden callings
[11:30] Megaphone Me: Giving voice to the unheard
[16:00] Uncovering subconscious desires through art
[20:00] How we sometimes “know” before we consciously know
[24:00] Cultural expectations of marriage and the pressure to conform
[28:00] What makes relationships last — and what makes them falter
[32:00] Grief, guilt, and “gorillas” after separation
[36:00] Creating new routines after loss
[39:00] Why you should be careful who you sit with after a breakup
[42:00] Redefining success, love, and belonging on your own terms
Key Takeaways
- Grief is not a detour; it is a necessary part of personal transformation
- You can lose yourself in the idea of a life before you realize it
- True love accepts, rather than tries to change, the other person
- New identities are often hidden inside old stories
- Trusting your instincts early can save years of pain
- Post-divorce life is not survival, it can be a season of creativity and hope
Through the Fog
This is a fortnightly podcast that explores some of life's biggest questions:
"What do I do now, where do I go next, what do I do with this one precious life?"
Through open and honest conversations with people doing their best work; founders, artists, musicians, and pioneers, we delve into why these people made the choices they did that led them to where they find themselves today.
We all hit moments where the path ahead feels unclear, where doubt creeps in, and every decision feels like a gamble, this is about those moments.
Hosted by Pierre, a strategist and systematic theologian who’s spent years helping people and businesses make their way through the fog. This is for anyone trying to find their way and do their best work. Expect honest conversations, hard-won insights, and real strategies to help you move forward, even when you can’t see the whole map.
