Playing it safe with AI sounds smart, but is banning it really how you prevent data leaks?

In this episode of Threat Talks, ON2IT’s Lieuwe Jan Koning (ON2IT Co-Founder) sits down with Rob Maas, Field CTO at ON2IT, to tackle the hard question: How can CISOs and security leaders embrace AI safely—without exposing their organization to destructive data leaks?

From Samsung’s ChatGPT ban to real-world AI hallucinations, we unpack why “AI, play it safe” doesn’t mean blocking innovation—it means controlling it.

• (00:00) - 00:00 – AI, play it safe introduction
• (00:00) - 00:41 – Customer fears: Ban AI or embrace it?
• (00:00) - 01:13 – Real case: $1 Chevrolet Tahoe & AI chatbots gone wrong
• (00:00) - 02:46 – Samsung’s ChatGPT ban: lessons for CISOs
• (00:00) - 06:50 – How AI transforms work & productivity (coding, translation, ops)
• (00:00) - 17:00 – Data exposure & AI governance: the #1 risk
• (00:00) - 30:21 – LLM on Prem
• (00:00) - 33:10 – AI hallucinations & unsafe outputs (dangerous examples)
• (00:00) - 40:50 – The CISO dilemma: Fall behind or take control

Additional Resources
• ON2IT Threat Talks Podcast: https://www.on2it.net/threat-talks
• Zero Trust Resources: https://www.on2it.net/zero-trust/

Guest & Host Links:
Rob Maas (Field CTO, ON2IT): https://www.linkedin.com/in/robmaas83/ 
Lieuwe Jan Koning (Founding Partner, ON2IT): https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieuwejan/

If you’re a CISO, CIO, or security leader navigating the AI storm, this episode is a must-watch.

Click here to view the episode transcript.

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