
Natalia Krapiva is the tech-legal Counsel with Access Now. Prior to that she worked as a prosecutor at Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office. She's been fighting NSO Group to try to limit the sale and use of spyware for many years and last December set a precedent with a win against this Israeli cyber-intelligence firm in the California court.
We talk to her about this and the state of digital forensics. As she says "it's a game of cat and mouse."