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AIRDATE:  05/17/2023 WEDNESDAY
GUEST:  JOSEY SCOTT (FOUNDING MEMBER OF SALIVA) JOSEY SCOTT’S SALIVA (2023)

0:00     SHOW INTRO-GUEST BACKGROUND-TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED
6:44     JOSEY SCOTT JOINS THE SHOW
7:30     WE DISCUSS HOW BOTH “SALIVA’S” WILL EXIST AMICABLY WHERE MOST BANDS FROM THE 80’S HAVE BEEN LITIGIOUS
9:12     ‘WE’RE NOT 2 SALIVA CAMPS, WE’RE ONE SALIVA CAMP”  “BOBBY HAS THE 2^ND HALF OF THE MATERIAL, I HAVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE MATERIAL”.  “MINES MORE OF A TRIBUTE, BROADWAY SHOW TYPE OF THING, BOBBY WILL BE DOING HIS MATERIAL”

“THERE’S NO INFIGHTING, NOTHING BUT LOVE AND RESPECT”

10:30   HE DISCUSSES HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR (BOBBY AMARU JR’S DAD) AND SUPPORT HE GOT FROM THE AMARU’S FROM THE LOSS OF HIS OLDEST SON CODY.

11:22   HE EXPLAINS THE DELAY IN “SHADE VIOLENT” ALBUM AND TOUR

12:06   JOSEY DISCUSSES HOW THINGS CHANGED GEARS WITH WAYNE SWINNY’S PASSING, AND COMMENDED THE ORGANIZATON BY BOBBY AMARU OF THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR SWINNY.

13:05   “CERTAINLY BOBBY HAS MY BLESSING ON GOING OUT THERE DOING HIS THING WITH SALIVA AND I’M GONNA DO MINE, THERE’S NO BAD BLOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT’S A GOOD THING”

13:27   WE DISCUSS HOW THE FORGING OF A FRIENDSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR ALLOWED BOTH CAMPS TO NAVIGATE THE LOSS OF WAYNE SWINNY TOGETHER.

“OUT OF DEATH, SPRINGS FORTH LIFE”

14:30   JOSEY CONTINUES TO WEIGH IN ON THE LOSS OF HIS CHILD.  “I GOOGLED “LOSING A CHILD” AND GOOGLE POPPED BACK “THE ULTIMATE TRAGEDY” “I WOULDN’T WISH THAT ON MY WORST ENEMY”.
-NOTE THAT MONDAY MAY 22, 2023, WILL BE ONE YEAR SINCE HIS SON’S PASSING

16:45   THROUGH THE RELATIONSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR, JOSEY AND BOBBY AMARU JR HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED MUSICAL COLLABORATIONS.

18:31   WE DISCUSS THE FAILED REUNION OF JOSEY SCOTT AND SALIVA AS WELL AS THE BLUE RIDGE FESTIVAL APPEARANCE, WHICH WOULD BE ONLY AND LAST APPEARANCE OF JOSEY SCOTT WITH WAYNE SWINNY.
19:30   “A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED WAS MY FAULT, BECAUSE I HADN’T BEEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN 10 YEARS”.  “WHAT A DIFFERENCE 10 YEARS MAKES”! -JOSEY SCOTT ON THE FAILED SALIVA REUNION

HE GOES ON TO SAY WITH COVID, HIS SON GETTING SICK AND AS THE “WORLD JUST SHIFTED GEARS”, CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY, THE REUNION “JUST IMPLODED AFTER THAT”.

21:08   HE GOES ONTO REFLECT ON THE BLUE RIDGE FESTIVAL OPPORTUNITY THAT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.  “I WAS IN A BETTER POSITION TO SAY YES TO THAT OPPORTUNITY”.


21:30   “I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GONNA BE THE LAST TIME I WOULD EVER GET TO WALK ON STAGE WITH WAYNE SWINNY AND I’M JUST SO GLAD WE GOT TO PLAY THAT GIG TOGETHER”

“THE UNIVERSE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS WHAT IT’S DOIN’”

WITH RESPECT TO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF A REUNION/ TOUR: “MAYBE WASN’T MEAN TO BE IN THAT FORM, IN THAT CONNOTATION” “IF THAT’S THE CASE, I’M GLAD IT DIDN’T HAPPEN AND I’M GLAD WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE BLUE RIDGE”.

22:55   WE DISCUSS WHAT IT WAS LIKE JOINING THE BAND IN FRONT OF A REPORTED 60-100k PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A DECADE WITH THE NEW SINGER ON THE SIDE OF THE STAGE.

“IT WAS ABSOLUTE MAGIC MAN”

24:20   HE TALKS ABOUT BEING NERVOUS BEFORE GOING ON STAGE AND HIS WIFE WALKED OVER AND SAID WHAT HE NEEDED TO HEAR TO GET ON STAGE:  SHE SAID, “YOU BELONG HERE”
“AFTER SHE SAID THAT, IT JUST CENTERED ME”.

                  “I’M ACTUALLY GONNA GET A TATTOO THAT SAYS “YOU BELONG HERE”

26:25   WE DISCUSSED ODD JOBS THAT JOSEY DID WHILE ON HIATUS AFTER LEAVING SALIVA.

HE TALKS ABOUT DOING DRUG COUNSELING FOR THE SHERIFF’S DEPT FOR 3 YEARS IN HIS HOMETOWN (BEFORE MOVING TO TULSA) AFTER GETTING CLEAN OFF OF PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS.

IN 2016, HE TOOK “PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST” CLASSES IN TULSA TO HELP VETERANS, HOMELESS AND OTHERS THAT DIDN’T HAVE RESOURCES TO FIND DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHAB.

“IT WAS ALMOST AS GOOD A FOOD FOR THE SOUL AS MUSIC IS”

30:00   WE TALK ABOUT JOSEY JOINING POISON ON STAGE LAST SUMMER IN TULSA, OK AT THE BOK CENTER.

“ME AND BRET HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD FRIENDS OVER THE YEARS, HE’S ALWAYS BEEN REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF MY CAREER AND MY COMEBACK”.

“IT WAS A DREAM COME TRUE TO GET TO GET ON STAGE WITH MY HEROES IN FRONT OF A SOLD OUT CROWD”

32:09   WE ASK THE QUESTION IF JOSEY SCOTT’S SALIVA WILL WRITE NEW MUSIC OR JUST TOUR PERFORMING THE SONGS FROM THE JOSEY SCOTT’S SALIVA ERA.

“I’VE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THAT, AND FOR RIGHT NOW, I’M JUST GONNA KEEP, WHAT I CALL “DELIVERING THE PACKAGE””.

HE GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT TOURING THE NORTH AMERICAN MARKETS, EUROPE AND SOUTH AMERICA.

“MUSIC IS MEDICATION, MUSIC IS MEDICINE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING” -JOSEY SCOTT

35:40   I ASK WHY JOSEY SCOTT DIDN’T JUST CALL THE BAND SALIVA.
“I DON’T WANT TO CONFUSE THE MARKET AND I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GETTING, I WAS GONE FOR 10 YEARS, AND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SEEN SALIVA (THE PAST 10 YEARS), THEY’VE SEEN THE “BOBBY ERA” AND I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHAT VERSION THEY’RE GOING TO SEE”

37:30   “I JUST WANNA LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHICH DRUG THEY’RE GETTIN’”

37:35   WE DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL THE NEW SONG “HORIZON” THAT WAS WRITTEN AND RECORDED BY WAYNE SWINNY ALONG WITH JOSEY SCOTT AND BOBBY AMARU WHO ARE WRITING AND COMPLETING THE VERSES DUBBED WAYNE SWINNY’S “SWAN SONG”

JOSEY GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR WAYNE SWINNY AND REFERENCES THAT AT THE END OF THE EVENING AS BOBBY AMARU FINISHED HIS THOUGHTS, THE SONG WAS PLAYED ON THE CLOSING PHOTOS

A VERSION OF THE SONG CAN BE FOUND HERE FROM VIDEO AT THE MEMORIAL DURING THE CLOSING OF THE CELEBRATION OF WAYNE SWINNY’S LIFE

https://youtu.be/F89QAvDpsMU?t=199

39:20   WHEN JOSEY ASKED BOBBY ABOUT THE SONG, BOBBY NOTED “THAT WAS THE LAST SONG WE RECORDED TOGETHER”

BOBBY SAID “HEY MAN, WHY DON’T WE GET INTO THE STUDIO TOGETHER AND YOU CAN WRITE THE 2^ND VERSE, AND THE CHORUS IF YOU WANT TO, & WE’LL DO THIS TOGETHER, SINCE IT’S WAYNE SWINNY’S SWAN SONG.  WE’LL DO THIS AS THE BEGINNING LEAD SINGER AND THE CURRENT LEAD SINGER””

41:45   JOSEY CONFIRMS THAT WAYNE SWINNY DID IN FACT RECORD GUITARS ON THIS SONG AND IT IS HIS LAST SOLO RECORDED.

“IT’S ONE OF THE BEST LEADS HE’S EVER PLAYED, IT WILL MAKE THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK STAND UP”

JOSEY HOPES TO GET HIS VOCALS DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO (SUMMER OF 2023).

43:00   WE GO ON TO RECAP A FEW OF THE UPCOMING DATES, MENTION JOSEYSCOTTROCKS.COM AND THEIR APPEARANCE AT NOTABLE STOPS AT THE STURGIS RALLY, WHISKY A GOGO OF WHICH HE’S NEVER PLAYED.

44:45   JOSEY MENTIONS HIS BAND WHICH INCLUDES HIS SON AS WELL.

45:40   JOSEY DISCUSSES BRIEFLY ABOUT BEING BACK ON THE ROAD AFTER MORE THAN A DECADE.

“IT FEELS AMAZING MAN, I ENJOY IT EVEN MORE NOW” “I KNOW HOW TO BE GRATEFUL AND MORE THANKFUL FOR IT” “I GET TO DO IT WITH A SOBER MIND AND A CLEAR HEAD, IT’S JUST A BLESSING AND THANKFUL TO THE FANS”.

48:15   INTERVIEW RECAP
48:56   END OF SHOW CREDITS INFO ETC