Both inspired and influenced by punk culture and music, Abby Denson and jamilah met as teenagers in the 1990s, and immediately started a band (where jamilah played guitar, and Abby played bass, respectively.  Mayumi (who is still in both of their lives) played drums).  While jamilah's introduction to Bad Religion was No Control; Abby's was the band's first album, How Could Hell Be Any Worse?; in terms of the band, this is where the two part ways- jamilah continued to purchase their records (as well as going backwards); Abby never found the interest to move beyond that.  We suppose that she found other bands to inspire her to pick up the thesaurus.  When we found out that Abby was only familiar with the first album, we knew that she was the perfect candidate (no pun intended) to be on an episode.  What made it even more interesting was that she's actually seen them live (with her husband, who is a longtime BR appreciator).  We gave her one song from every album to listen to (except the first one, of course), And she and jamilah converse, leading to a few interpretations of select songs that are...  interesting, to say the least. There is also discussion of how Los Angeles is burning (and of course, this has never been a truer song more than now); how some music and art have been misappropriated by people who do not mean well, as past works have the capacity to lose context as time goes on; how some parents refuse to teach their kids about the world around them; as well as a personal evolution of the Crossbuster's significance.  Thanks so much for listening! For anyone in Los Angeles needing resources, go to:  https://mutualaidla.org/ To go to Abby's site, go to:  https://www.abbydenson.com/ Give us a holler at: thispodcaststrikesfirst@gmail.com