In this episode of This Podcast Is Not Real, we dig into the tangled narrative surrounding Donald Trump and his evolving explanations about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. From changing stories about why their friendship ended to bold claims of transparency around the Epstein case, we explore the political spin, public reactions, and lingering questions. What role do figures like JD Vance play? Why are calls for full disclosure still unanswered? Tune in as we uncover what’s real, what’s rhetoric, and what’s still hidden in the shadows of one of the most controversial scandals of our time.