In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025
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In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025
Rasayel: Revolutionising Customer Engagement via WhatsApp
This Much I Know - The Seedcamp Podcast
46 minutes 38 seconds
1 year ago
Rasayel: Revolutionising Customer Engagement via WhatsApp
In the ever-evolving landscape of business communication, platforms like WhatsApp are no longer just messaging apps but have transformed into powerful platforms enabling businesses to connect with their customers in groundbreaking ways.
In the latest episode of Startups in Focus, our Managing Director Carlos Espinal and our Principal Felix Martinez, dive deep into this topic with Tarek Khalil and Mohamed Elbadwihi, co-founders of Rasayel, exploring how they are leveraging WhatsApp to redefine business communication.
They also explore:
- the evolution of WhatsApp as a platform and its impact on business communication, driven by its mass usage and business demand, highlighting the complexities of compliance and global usage variations;
- the strategic choice of focusing on WhatsApp due to its global prevalence and trusted infrastructure;
- the potential of building a billion-dollar company on platforms like WhatsApp, drawing parallels with Salesforce and Shopify;
- how to navigate platform risks.
About Rasayel:
Rasayel focuses on enabling businesses to interact with customers via WhatsApp, which they see as the future of business communication, offering a more personal and immediate interaction compared to emails and phone calls. Tarek and Mohammed foresee significant business opportunities as WhatsApp evolves, aiming for Rasael to become a leading player on the platform.
Show Notes:
Tarek Khalil - linkedin.com/in/tarek-khalil-wa/
Mohamed Elbadwihi - linkedin.com/in/amuno
Carlos Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal/
Felix Martinez - linkedin.com/in/felixjmartinez/
Rasayel - rasayel.io
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Get in Touch with Rasayel:
For businesses, investors, or users eager to explore further into Rasayel, the easiest way to reach them is—fittingly—through WhatsApp via their website.
Dive Deeper:
Betting on WhatsApp - Tarek Khalil, Co-founder and CEO of Rasayel, wrote a thesis for anyone who wants to understand, build, or invest in the future of the WhatsApp platform. [https://justmessaged.substack.com/p/betting-on-whatsapp]
Overview:
00:00 Can WhatsApp Sustain a Billion-Dollar Company?
00:25 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests
01:05 Founders' Backgrounds and Journey
03:16 Lessons Learned from Previous Startups
05:29 The Birth of Octopods and Rassayel
08:10 How Rassayel Helps Businesses
10:36 WhatsApp as a Platform
13:34 Platform Risks and Meta's Strategy
21:24 Global Usage of Messaging Apps
23:53 Global Messaging Trends and WhatsApp's Dominance
24:47 Trust and Confidentiality in Messaging Platforms
25:47 WhatsApp's Strategic Development and Market Penetration
27:45 Navigating Multiple Messaging Channels
32:07 WhatsApp Business Platform: Features and Compliance
37:34 Future of Business on WhatsApp
45:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
This Much I Know - The Seedcamp Podcast
In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025