In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025
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In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025
Navigating Growth: Sales and Scaling Strategies from Ryan Lieber, Snowflake’s First SDR
This Much I Know - The Seedcamp Podcast
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9 months ago
Navigating Growth: Sales and Scaling Strategies from Ryan Lieber, Snowflake’s First SDR
In a new episode of Path to Market, our Director Natasha Lytton and her co-host Micah Smurthwaite, Partner at Pipeline Ventures are joined by Ryan Lieber, an experienced Go-to-Market Leader and one of Snowflake’s earliest employees and its first SDR.
Together they discuss Snowflake's impressive growth trajectory, the challenges and strategies of category creation, key sales methodologies like MEDDPICC, the best approaches for scaling internationally, and cross-functional sales efforts. Ryan shares his experiences from joining Snowflake when it was an unknown startup in 2014 to its current status as a data giant with over 7,000 employees and a market capitalization of over $50 billion.
He also delves into when and how founders should hire their first SDRs and sales leaders, the metrics for measuring their success, and the role of marketing alignment in scaling sales. Moreover, he emphasizes the importance of understanding regional cultural and communication nuances, and how to leverage partnerships in new markets.
Key takeaways:
- taking an iterative approach to the sales process enables you to transition from broad outreach to focusing on sales-qualified opportunities;
- hiring SDRs earlier rather than later is not only cost-effective, but it also enables founders to focus on product development;
- choose a sales leader who isn't afraid to "get their hands dirty" and is willing to adapt to the dynamic needs of a growing startup. They are in touch with the pulse of the market and the realities faced by their teams;
- international expansion is not a uniform process and differs significantly by region. This is why understanding cultural nuances, leveraging regional partners, and ensuring the market is ripe for entry are essential considerations;
- taking a partnership approach to scaling accelerates growth and embeds credibility in the customer’s eyes.
Overview:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Background
01:00 Ryan’s Early Days at Snowflake
03:59 Career Growth and Opportunities
05:01 Building the EMEA Team
07:08 Challenges and Learnings
08:19 Finding the Ideal Customer Profile
13:57 Sales Methodology: MEDDPICC
19:30 Hiring and Building a Sales Team
21:48 The Daily Grind of an SDR
22:01 Key Traits for Sales Success
23:30 Red Flags in Sales Hiring
27:07 Effective SDR Metrics
32:09 Hiring Your First Sales Leader
34:54 The Power of Marketing in Sales
36:49 Scaling Internationally
42:26 Snowflake's Startup Program
45:02 Final Thoughts and Advice
This Much I Know - The Seedcamp Podcast
In the latest Seedcamp Deep Dive, our Managing Partner, Carlos Eduardo Espinal, discusses the complexities of investing in deeptech, dual-use and the defence sector. He's joined by two distinguished guests from defence and investment backgrounds: Nicola Sinclair, General Partner at Twin Track Ventures, and Samuel Burrell, Partner at Expeditions Fund.
Nicola begins the conversation by explaining her motivation for founding Twin Track, highlighting the need to connect startups with the defence and security sectors and detailing her approach to evaluating deep tech investments. Sam then discusses his transition from military service to venture capital and emphasizes the importance of understanding end-user needs in defense tech investments.
This insightful conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:
- The challenges of dual-use technologies
- The role of prime contractors
- The evolving geopolitical landscape
- Investment opportunities in space technology
- The future of defence tech investments
Show Notes:
Nicola Sinclair - linkedin.com/in/nicola-sinclair-
Samuel Burrell - linkedin.com/in/samuelrburrell
Carlos Eduardo Espinal - linkedin.com/in/carloseduardoespinal
Twin Track Ventures - twintrack.vc
Expeditions Fund - expeditionsfund.com
Seedcamp - seedcamp.com
Sam’s weekly newsletter This Week in Dual-Use [www.samuelburrell.com]
“Working with Defence & Security” Survey. The results will be released on 14 November 2025