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Thinking Out Loud w/Friends of SoundBroker
Jan Landy
516 episodes
5 days ago
Another in an ongoing series of reflections of life as recorded by Jan Landy mostly while driving in my car from where I am to where I am going.
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Another in an ongoing series of reflections of life as recorded by Jan Landy mostly while driving in my car from where I am to where I am going.
Show more...
Arts
Comedy
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278-Thinking Out Loud w/Friends of SoundBroker ZoomCast Show Notes
Thinking Out Loud w/Friends of SoundBroker
54 minutes
1 month ago
278-Thinking Out Loud w/Friends of SoundBroker ZoomCast Show Notes

The group discussed various aspects of the music and entertainment industry, including recent performances, technical challenges, and historical experiences working with famous musicians. They explored topics such as audio equipment, mixing techniques, and the evolution of live sound production, while sharing personal anecdotes and industry insights. The conversation concluded with discussions about upcoming events, the changing landscape of audio technology, and the logistics of large-scale music productions.

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Musicians' Experiences and Performances
The group discussed various topics, including Wayne Sims's recent work with the Blues Roadshow, which involved eight guitar players performing simultaneously. They also talked about Barry Manilow's ongoing career at age 82 and his energetic performances. The conversation shifted to past experiences working with famous musicians, with Bruce and Wayne sharing stories about difficult encounters with drummers like Buddy Rich. The group also briefly discussed a fundraising event they had worked on together in the past.

Challenges of Celebrity and Media
The group discussed the challenges faced by celebrities, particularly child stars, and how fame can affect their demeanor and careers. They also talked about audio setup issues and technical adjustments for a live stream. The conversation briefly touched on the situation with Jimmy Kimmel and the role of politics in late-night talk shows, but Jan stopped the discussion before it could become too political. The conversation ended with a brief discussion about the shift towards streaming media and its impact on traditional broadcast ratings.

Music Industry and Concert Trends
The group discussed various topics including concert ticket prices, the changing music industry, and upcoming tours. Ken shared his experience attending Paul McCartney's concert in Las Vegas, while Curt explained his involvement in setting up equipment for The Who's tour. The conversation touched on the high costs of concert productions and the shift in the music industry from album sales to live performances for revenue. Jan mentioned a TikTok prediction of the world ending by September, which led to some lighthearted banter. Fred announced he would be away for a few weeks due to travel. The group also briefly discussed a potential concert by a band named Hotel California in Canada, which David Dansky clarified was not his band.

Music Copyright and Tech Updates
The group discussed copyright issues, particularly regarding the Eagles' strict enforcement of their music rights, with Jan sharing a story about a company that could only use "Hotel California" in Japan due to licensing restrictions. Christopher explained the concept of fair use, noting that news outlets can use up to 7-8 seconds of music without permission, while Ken inquired about the rules for live performances. The conversation then shifted to technical matters, with Curt seeking advice about digital whiteboards for his shop, and Jan recommending Office Hours Global as a resource. The conversation ended with Christopher providing an update on the Pacific Palisades fire situation, noting that the permit process was taking longer than usual and land prices had dropped by 25-30% in the area.

Cedar vs. Waves Noise Reduction
The group discussed noise reduction equipment, comparing the Waves WNS plugin to Cedar audio devices. Wayne explained that while the WNS is less expensive at $35, it doesn't work as well as the Cedar units, which are more expensive but offer better customization with 6 frequency bands. Bruce shared that a 2-channel Cedar unit cost around $4,000 several years ago, while Denis noted that a 2-channel 5045 unit currently costs $2,000. The discussion concluded with Denis sharing information about a DNS 8-channel Cedar unit priced at around $7,000 Canadian.

Audio Technology Evolution and Solutions
The group discussed the evolution of audio technology, with Bruce sharing his experience transitioning from analog to digital consoles and the challenges of managing multiple audio sources in corporate events. Wayne demonstrated a more cost-effective alternative to the Cedar audio noise suppressor unit, and the conversation touched on the practicalities of using EtherCon connectors and Ethernet cables in live sound applications. The discussion concluded with recommendations for adapter solutions to handle different cable types and connector standards in various audio systems.

Digital vs Analog Mixing Insights
The group discussed the differences between analog and digital mixers, with Wayne emphasizing the need for proactive thinking in digital mixing rather than reactive adjustments. Bruce shared his technique of using "home buttons" on digital consoles to navigate back to familiar settings, while Denis recounted a humorous story about a water incident at the Montreal Jazz Festival that highlighted the complexity of digital mixing. The conversation concluded with Bruce and Wayne exchanging stories about their experiences with digital consoles, including a water damage incident at a Phoenix event where Bruce was able to recover the setup using a saved configuration on a thumb drive.

LCR Audio Mixing Techniques
The group discussed mixing techniques for left-center-right (LCR) audio systems in theaters. Bruce inquired about optimal ways to pan vocals and instruments, leading to a discussion about placing vocals in the center and panning band members to the stereo sides. Denis explained the use of a "divergence" feature on LCR consoles to control how much of the center signal goes to the left and right channels. The conversation also covered the challenges of using center clusters, including coverage issues and the need for proper mixing techniques. Wayne Sims shared an experience using a matrixed LCR setup in a theater in Port Macquarie, which resulted in a seamless audio experience during a spoken word performance.

Isolation Transformers in Audio Systems
The group discussed the importance of isolation transformers in audio systems, particularly during the transition from analog to digital in the late 90s. Wayne Sims shared his experience with creating audio loops and the challenges of working without isolation transformers, while Bruce and Wayne Pierce highlighted the effectiveness of carrying heavy isolation transformers to ensure clean power for audio and lighting systems. Denis inquired about transformers with variable R or Q factors, which Wayne and Wayne Pierce researched, finding that these factors relate to insulation and impedance, though the exact details were unclear. The conversation concluded with a lighthearted mention of the Pink Panther movies and a brief discussion about transformer taps and their function in adjusting output voltage.

Music Production and Event Planning
The meeting participants discussed various topics, including WORLD Dream Day, upcoming events, and personal updates. Jan mentioned speaking with Sean, who expressed interest in participating in an unspecified activity and will follow up with Kurt. The group also talked about the logistics and scale of large music productions, with Joshua sharing experiences from recent concerts and events. Wayne Sims shared his thoughts on the increasing complexity and technology involved in modern live sound productions.

Musicians' Tech Evolution and Challenges
Joshua shared his experience working with various bands and venues, highlighting how technology has changed the industry, making it easier for musicians to travel with minimal equipment. He discussed his recent show setup, including challenges with lighting and sound equipment, and how he managed to deliver a successful performance despite some technical issues. The conversation...

Thinking Out Loud w/Friends of SoundBroker
Another in an ongoing series of reflections of life as recorded by Jan Landy mostly while driving in my car from where I am to where I am going.