Robin Sloan — bestselling author of 'Mr. Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore' and Fat Gold olive oil micro magnate — and Craig discuss his evolution as a writer, photographer, designer, and 'athlete,' diving deep into his creative processes, the significance of his walks, and his membership program. He recounts the impact of being rejected by the publishing industry and how that propelled him to find alternative ways to share his work, leading to the success of his membership program and his latest book, 'Things Become Other Things.' Mod also opens up about his adoption story and recent meeting with his birth mother, shedding light on how these personal experiences have influenced his work. The discussion is rich with insights on the value of craftsmanship, the importance of quiet and rest, and the dynamics of balancing solo and collaborative efforts in creative projects. Guest Links: • Robin Sloan: https://www.robinsloan.com/ • Mr. Penumbra's 24-Hour Bookstore: https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Penumbras-24-Hour-Bookstore-Novel/dp/1250037751?tag=cramod-20 • Fat Gold: https://fat.gold/ Find Craig online at: https://craigmod.com And pick up a copy of "Things Become Other Things": • Amazon: https://amzn.to/3z1CjSt • Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/p/books/things-become-other-things-a-memoir-craig-mod/21707235?ean=9780593732540 • Apple Books: https://books.apple.com/us/book/things-become-other-things/id6618121918 • Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/things-become-other-things-craig-mod/1146138224?ean=9780593732540