Sean and Mark get dramatic this week with their chat to Matt King-Sayce, a Head of Drama at a top independent school. They talk about leading organisations through change, the power of saying yes by default and seeing where it takes you, and leading with humanity.
They also get drama specific about building spaces where risks can be taken, the importance now more than ever of the arts for wellbeing, and (in a flashback to the Danny Townsend episode) when your mum tells you to do something, you do it!
Matt's Curious Minds blog post is here. The 2% Mindset image is he talks about is here.
Matt talks about his work with Gareth Johnson on educational leadership which you can view here and you can connect with Matt on LinkedIn.
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See you next week.
