This extended episode features Atara Vogelstein, Drama Therapist, LCAT, in conversation with Talia Weiner, LMFT in-training. In this casual interview between cousins, Talia (she/her) and Atara (she/her) discuss core processes of Drama Therapy and Creative Arts Therapy and reflections from the field, touching on key concepts such as working with trauma and attachment, embodied and projective engagement, and building safety within a therapeutic relationship.

Interview date: March 19th, 2024

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References and further reading:

Haen, C. (2023). Integrative drama therapy in the treatment of trauma: Matching aesthetic properties to patient needs. In C. A. Malchiodi (Ed.), Handbook of expressive therapies (pp. 287–302). Guilford.

Jones, P. (2011). Dramatherapy: Five core processes, Dramatherapy, 14(1), 8-15. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1080/02630672.1991.9689804

Koch, S. C. & Fuchs, T. (2011). Embodied arts therapies, The Arts in Psychotherapy, 38: 276– 280, doi: https://doi-org.proxy.library.nyu.edu/10.1016/j.aip.2011.08.007

Landy, R. J. (2009). Role theory and the role method of drama therapy. In D. R. Johnson, & R. Emunah (Eds.), Current approaches in drama therapy (pp. 65–88). Springfield, IL: Charles C. Thomas Publishers.

Mahon, B. Z. (2015). What is embodied about cognition?, Language, Cognition and Neuroscience, 30:4, 420-429. DOI: 10.1080/23273798.2014.987791

Malchiodi, C. A. (2019). Trauma narratives: Multiple layers of storied expression. In Trauma and expressive arts therapy: Brain, body, and imagination in the healing process (pp. 243-283). Guilford.

Moreno, J. L. (1946/1985). Psychodrama, first volume (4th ed.). Beacon, NY: Beacon House.

Stevens, Adam D.F. (2023), 'BART, the Black American Role Taxonomy: A culturally expansive approach to role theory and method', Drama Therapy Review, Breathing Beyond Borders: Racial Justice and Decolonial Healing Practices, Vol 9, pp. 81-99, doi: ⁠https://doi.org/10.1386/dtr_00121_1⁠

Williams, B. M. (2017), ‘Role power: Using Role Theory in support of ethical practice’, Drama Therapy Review, 3: 1, pp. 131–48, doi: 10.1386/dtr.3.1.131_1

Vogelstein, Atara. (2018), “Drama Therapy & Empathy: An Autoethnographic Study of Empathy in the Emerging Drama Therapist.” ProQuest Dissertations Publishing, New York University, Steinhardt School of Culture, Education & Human Development, Program in Drama Therapy, 5 May 2020, pp. 1–136. ProQuest, LLC, https://www.proquest.com/openview/36f180f64a42b8e19cfd4da9fe0718ce/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y.