Luke Drago is the co-author of The Intelligence Curse and previously researched AI governance and economics at BlueDot Impact, served on the leadership team at Encode, and studied history and politics at Oxford.
0:00 - Intro
0:54 - Overview of the intelligence curse
2:10 - Why are the doomers wrong?
4:37 - Why are the optimists wrong?
7:00 - Do people really have power now?
13:33 - Why would powerful people’s values change?
18:31 - Why do we take care of dependents?
21:43 - Why should we want democracy in an AI future?
24:23 - Why fear rentier states?
32:45 - What powerful people should do right now
39:33 - Diffusion time and bottlenecks
44:20 - Why should we care if China achieves AGI first?
46:25 - The jagged frontier
49:16 - Why AGI society could be static
51:10 - Restricting AI rights
56:34 - What should we be excited for?
59:28 - Music
1:30:41 - Building God
1:32:46 - More music
The Intelligence Curse: https://intelligence-curse.ai/
Luke’s Twitter: https://x.com/luke_drago_
Luke’s Substack: https://lukedrago.substack.com/
Luke’s top 10 albums:
- A Fever You Can't Sweat Out by Panic! at the Disco (2005)
- Channel Orange by Frank Ocean (2012)
- Random Access Memories by Daft Punk (2013)
- Yeezus by Kanye West (2013)
- DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar (2017)
- DAYTONA by Pusha T (2018)
- IGOR by Tyler, the Creator (2019)
- I Didn't Mean to Haunt You by Quadeca (2022)
- College Park by Logic (2023)
- Atavista by Childish Gambino (2024)
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My Twitter: https://x.com/theojaffee
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