In this episode ofThe Zen Curious, I sit down withJohn Shaw, son of the lateMary Sparrowdancer, author ofThe Love Song of the Universe. Mary was a writer, visionary, and spiritual seeker whose book detailed hernear-death experience, encounters with Indigenous spirits and Jesus, and her belief that divine love is encoded in our DNA.

✨ Episode Highlights

📖The Love Song of the Universe – A book that transcends religion. How this book changed perspectives on spirituality and personal awakening.

🎶The Song in Our DNA – What does it mean that divine love is literally encoded in us? How does this concept align withquantum science, epigenetics, and sound healing?

💭Fluoride & Spiritual Suppression – Mary believed fluoride calcifies thepineal gland, blocking access to higher consciousness. We connect this toRFK Jr.’s concerns about fluoride’s impact on IQ and neurological function.

🧬Healing & Vibrational Energy – How modern science is catching up to ancient wisdom onsound frequencies, DNA reprogramming, and spiritual awakening.

⚖Living Outside the Mainstream – The challenges of walking an unconventional path, and what Mary’s journey can teach us aboutstaying true to our spiritual experiences.

📖The Love Song of the Universe (2001, Hampton Roads) –Read the Free PDF Here.

📜The Gospel of Judas, Barbelo & Long-Kept Secrets – Mary’s article on fluoride, hidden knowledge, and spiritual awakening.

🧠RFK Jr. on fluoride & cognitive function –
🔹2019 JAMA Pediatrics Study – Found that fluoride exposure during pregnancy correlates withlower IQ in children.
🔹National Toxicology Program Report – Confirmed fluoride as aneurotoxin affecting cognitive development.