In this conversation, we delve into the non-linear journeys that Tre’ Cates and Tonya Price took to arrive at their current roles with nRhythm. We explore nRhythm’s innovative living systems-based approach to organizational and system design, and how they operationalize the With Life Approach in various organizations. Additionally, we discuss the challenges inherent in startup culture and existing systems, and how the With Life Approach can help us redesign these systems to enhance capacity and unleash human potential.   **   If this conversation resonated with you, and you want to learn more about how to align your organization with life, how to create conditions for sustainable growth, or how to add organizational health as a vital measure, we invite you to join us. Join our community to learn more about all the online courses, programs and offerings of With Life. join.withlife.community/