In this episode, I chat with Matt and Kristen Ballenthin. I met Matt and Kristen through my friends, the Alcivars (check out episodes 6, 12, and 20). In some ways, Matt and Kristen's story in the outdoors started when they found an unexpected phone booth in the woods during a storm which, in and of itself, is a great reason to listen to this episode. But that was just the beginning. Several years and a few kids later, Matt and Kristen have built a life infused with the outdoor adventures - and their adventures are not for the fain of heart! In this episode, they share some great stories but also tell you how you can start backpacking with young kids, make the most of a long winter, and keep everyone safe in the process. It's a great conversation that you won't want to miss! Show Links: Essential Gear for the Outdoors - www.wilderoutdooracademy.com/safety