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The Whole Therapist
Abby & Kellee
77 episodes
2 days ago
Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen ...
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Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen ...
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Episodes (20/77)
The Whole Therapist
The Problem with CE's: A Critical Look at Continuing Ed in the Field
Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen ...
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4 months ago
23 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Applying for an Internship
Abby and Kellee talk through basics of looking for, applying for, and interviewing for your internship placement. They discuss the use of AI, and ways to use it appropriately in this process. Topics Touched on: Rupi Kaur Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: wholetherapistinstitute@gmail.com
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4 months ago
19 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Therapists' Relationship with Goodbyes
Abby and Kellee explore how grief often accompanies goodbyes, and that goodbyes can also hold happiness and hope. They notice how endings and goodbyes can feel different for each therapist and each therapist/client dyad. They reflect on their own relationship with goodbyes in an out of the therapy space. Topics Touched on: Circle of Security- https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com Padraig O Tuama Maya Ward Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://w...
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6 months ago
27 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Holding Space for Marginalized Clients
Abby and Kellee recorded on 1/31/25 and began exploring how to hold space for marginalized clients who are impacted by executive orders and fear of or actual detainments of themselves and loved ones. Topics Touched on: Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition: https://coloradoimmigrant.org/ Decolonizing Therapy (Jaiya john): https://www.decolonizingtherapy.com Iain McGilchrist: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300245929/the-master-and-his-emissary/ Enough About You- Titus Kaphar: h...
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9 months ago
24 minutes

The Whole Therapist
New Year, New Healer?
Abby and Kellee jump into a new season with the new year. They explore the ebbs and flows of their rhythms over the last 5 years of recordings, and how they have shifted as healers. Abby and Kellee highlight the importance of slowing down, community, intentionality, and how “being with” is truly enough for our clients healing. Topics Touched on: Rebodying the Self of the Healer - REGISTER NOW: https://www.marshalllyles.com Maggie Smith’s poem- How Dark the Beginning: https://www.poetryf...
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10 months ago
21 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Humility, Arrogance, and Therapists Oh My!
Abby and Kellee explore superiority, humility, arrogance, and how they show up for therapists. They give examples of how they have and do fall down this slippery slope (even while they record this episode) Abby and Kellee discuss the therapists’ parts of self that can show up in sessions where we may believe we are better and/or able to influence the outcomes for clients resulting in lack of true presence. How do we set this part aside to be fully curious? Topics Touched on: Adrie...
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11 months ago
24 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Giving Clients Congruence with Our Internalized Community
Abby and Kellee start to explore the word accountability and sift through their intention for the episode. They come to name self-reflection and community. Abby and Kellee talk authenticity and explore internalizing nurture from those in their community; which supports them in bringing this into the therapy space. They ask listeners to identify who they can be their truest self with; to practice authenticity and gain internalized nurturing that allows them to show up congruently with clients....
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1 year ago
22 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Moving Away from 'Topic of The Week' Therapy
Kellee and Abby revisit the concept of 'process over content' in therapy, and explore what is bringing them Joy over the last few years since beginning the podcast. They dive into what may be leading therapists into content therapy versus process therapy, and encourage therapists to lean into what makes them feel alive and joyful. Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com E...
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1 year ago
15 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Withholding: Are You Colluding with Avoidance?
Abby and Kellee are back after some big technological struggles. They welcome the community back in and explore the theme of, withholding. They explore withholding EMDR from clients and withholding the truth from clients. Are therapists withholding for a true clinical reason or out of fear? Abby and Kellee ask therapists to ask themselves, “Why might I not be leaning into something that is right here in the room where someone’s nervous system might really benefit from me leaning in?” To...
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1 year ago
21 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Exploring Attraction to Our Clients
Abby and Kellee get brave and venture into a topic that doesn’t seem openly talked about, feeling attraction to our clients. They share their own experience of this happening, normalize this experience, and explore the neuroscience that is happening when attraction happens. Topics Touched on: Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com The Whole Therapist Consultation Group: $50 per group. Capped at 8 participants each month. Follow us: https://www.ins...
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1 year ago
20 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Bravery and Risk: How We Show Up in the Therapy Room
Abby and Kellee use this episode to talk through some recent experiences that required Bravery in their own lives and how we relate to Risk both personally and professionally. They explore noticing how 'being brave' and 'taking risks' show up in relationship in the therapy setting, and share some poetry with listeners.They ask listeners to get curious about their own relationship to Risk and how this influences their ways of being as a therapist and a human. Topics Touched o...
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1 year ago
20 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Do We Love Our Clients: A Conversation Between Therapists
Kellee and Abby are back from their holiday break! Join them for the Season 5 in another conversation, all about looooooove 💗. Their exploration is prompted by the question, “do we love our clients?” and, "must we?" Kellee and Abby muse about what it means to love, draw from some of Dr. Allan Schore's research, name the importance of therapist's doing their own parts work, and end with questions for listeners as they continue to do their own wondering. Topics Touched on: Dr. Allan Schor...
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1 year ago
18 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Exploration of Pregnancy and Being a Therapist
Kellee is going on maternity leave! This episode explores the ways in which therapists who experience pregnancy can be impacted and transformed as practitioners and humans. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal experience with pregnancy in the field, how they navigate boundaries, and conversations around client care as it relates to self-disclosure in this tender time period. They normalize how nuanced this topic and experience can be and emphasize how necessary it is to 'be so human' wi...
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1 year ago
19 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Time to Take Your Time Off
This episode explores all the ways in which we therapists don’t take the time off we need while encouraging our clients to take time off for self-care. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal struggles with taking time off, including the messages and narratives they tell themselves about when and how much time off they should take. They normalize how guilt can show up around this subject and emphasize how necessary and worthy we are of taking time for ourselves. Follow ...
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2 years ago
14 minutes

The Whole Therapist
The Deeply Feeling Therapist
Abby and Kellee use this episode to share some announcements and talk through some recent stories in their own lives that have contributed to deep feelings showing up personally and professionally. They explore noticing deep feelings that show up in relationship in the professional setting, and what pausing and reflecting can do to create regulation around such deep feelings. They ask listeners to get curious about their own deep feelings that show up with clients in sessions. Top...
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2 years ago
23 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Let's Talk - Nonverbal Communication
Abby and Kellee touch on how important non-verbal communication is to the healing process for our clients in the therapy space. They share how words are the least important part of the healing process, and ways that non-verbal communication is so vital to attachment trauma work. The acknowledge this topic being hard to explore while using a podcast that involves all talking, and leave listeners with a practice they can do with nature, a pet, or a listening partner. Topics Touched ...
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2 years ago
31 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Feedback: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
Abby and Kellee lean into discussing recent feedback they got on this podcast, and the parallel process that occurs in the therapy space. They explore work from Dan Siegel around “linkage and differentiation.” The two also discuss attachment strategies we all can fall into based on our own attachment histories with giving and receiving feedback. Topics Touched on: Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com Flora Feeling Mini Deck: https://www.etsy.com/listing/799453202/mini-deck-flora-...
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2 years ago
27 minutes

The Whole Therapist
At the Edge of Our Own Work
Abby and Kellee spend time wandering through this episode exploring patience with parts of self for our clients, and for ourselves. They untangle the definition of patience, and what this really means in our work with clients. The two name the wandering that happens in this episode and explore what it feels like to be at the edge of their own work to help listeners begin to recognize when they too are at the edge of their work. Topics Touched on: Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurt...
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2 years ago
24 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Attuning to the Context
Abby and Kellee spend time exploring how important the context of our client’s lives are. They discuss being attuned with that context versus pushing feelings away, offering coping skills and offering quick fixes. Being with is identified as the most important thing therapists can do first. Topics Touched on: Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com Marshall Lyles: https://w...
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2 years ago
24 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Finding Your Therapeutic Home. Finding Who You'll Journey With.
Abby and Kellee welcome listeners into community. They explore looking for a therapeutic home for therapists and clients alike. Abby and Kellee discuss balancing many therapeutic homes, finding “your people,” and journeying with them. They share the vulnerability that is present in seeking out community. Topics Touched on: Bonnie: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com Lisa Dion: https://synergeticplaytherapy.com On Being with Krista Tippett: https://onbeing.org/programs/ada-limon-to-be-made...
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2 years ago
17 minutes

The Whole Therapist
Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen ...