How do you lift people to their greatest potential when your country has a legacy of authoritarian leadership that has kept people's identities and their value in small boxes? Nkululeko Dwight Sibiya and Sifiso Ripinga are doing just this in Gauteng, South Africa.

They join Ann and Kim to share their remarkable adventure into a new definition of leadership at their company, TC&HS, one that keeps the spirit of Africa and Ubuntu - 'I am because you are'.

Hear about their journey into leadership, why they actively don't have a retention plan for their staff and how they keep the collective goal of uplifting communities at the heart of their commercial business instead of shareholder profits.

In our opinion, if you are looking to restore your faith in humanity, this is a good place to start.