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The Vertical SaaS Podcast
Gavin Savage
18 episodes
2 months ago

The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.


If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.


At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS


We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives


Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.


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The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.


If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.


At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS


We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives


Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Is CLM Dead? Rebuilding Legal Infrastructure in the Agentic AI Era With Simon McCarthy
The Vertical SaaS Podcast
52 minutes 45 seconds
4 months ago
Is CLM Dead? Rebuilding Legal Infrastructure in the Agentic AI Era With Simon McCarthy

On this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, host Gavin Savage sits down with Simon McCarthy, VP of Enterprise Transformation at ContractPod AI, to unpack what’s broken in Contract Lifecycle Management and what’s coming next.


With over 150 CLM implementations under his belt, Simon shares a brutally honest take on why most platforms fail, the myths around CLM as a “legal” tool, and how AI is reshaping the contract stack. From post-signature ROI to the rise of agentic contracting, he offers sharp insights into where legal tech is headed and how operators can actually get it right.


We explore:

  • Why half of CLM projects fail and how to avoid becoming a cautionary tale
  • The true cost of doing nothing in contract management
  • What makes vertical SaaS fragile in the era of AI
  • Whether “intelligent contracting” is just rebranding or something deeper
  • The line between tools and platforms, and how AI could redraw it


Whether you’re scaling a legaltech product or rethinking your enterprise contract stack, this one’s packed with hard truths, practical wisdom, and a hopeful look forward.


Key Takeaways:

  • Simon has led 150+ CLM rollouts across major enterprises
  • Change management, not tech, is the CLM killer
  • CLM is a cross-functional platform, not just for legal
  • Bad implementations can cost millions in sunk value
  • AI + agentic tools are transforming the CLM stack
  • Real value lies after the signature, in tracking, obligations, and outcomes
  • Adoption hinges on integration and user behavior, not features
  • The future is modular, intelligent, and AI-native



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The Vertical SaaS Podcast

The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.


If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.


At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS


We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives


Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.