The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.
If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.
At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS
We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives
Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.
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The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.
If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.
At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS
We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives
Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this packed episode, Host Gavin Savage sits down with Richard Mabey, former M&A lawyer at Freshfields and now one of the leading voices in legaltech, to unpack the most urgent issues and transformative trends reshaping the legal profession in 2025.
Richard is the co-founder and CEO of Juro, an AI-native platform trusted by over 6,000 companies worldwide, including major global brands and Fortune 500 enterprises. It enables legal and business teams to draft, agree, and manage contracts in a single collaborative workspace, helping users close deals up to 10x faster than traditional workflows.
Together, Gavin and Richard walk through Juro’s freshly published State of In-House Legal 2025 report, dissecting the data behind rising burnout, the accelerating adoption of AI, and the cultural mismatch between what in-house teams need and what law firms still deliver. From Richard’s founder journey to the emergence of agentic AI, this is a sharp, data-driven, and human-first look at where legal is heading next, and what it will take to build both scalable tech and sustainable teams.
In this episode, we get into:
💥 Why in-house burnout is rising
🤖 What Agentic AI really means for legal teams. Not just smarter tools, but autonomous systems reshaping how work gets done
⚖️ Why BigLaw is losing ground with GCs
📉 The fall of the billable hour
🧠 Building legaltech that actually sticks
👥 Culture, leadership, and the cost of 10 pm Slack messages
So much of the legal industry is being reimagined faster than most teams can adapt. This episode goes beyond the hype to explore what’s breaking, what’s working, and what’s next for legal leaders navigating real pressure in real time.
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