In this episode, Meesha Williams talks to Ann Shenfield about her book of poetry, A Treatment.

Ann speaks on the many treatments in the book, from the treatment of language to the treatment of people. She explains the origins of the work - influenced by her own family's escape from the Holocaust, and the trauma they experienced in the years that followed. Meesha and Ann also discuss psychoanalytic perspectives on language, poetry, and trauma; and the role of poetry in a contemporary, Capitalist context.

The music in this episode is Mark Isaacs's composition "Have one more" played by Simon Tedeschi, for the ABC recording "Tender Earth".

Order A Treatment here: https://upswellpublishing.com/product/a-treatment#:~:text=About%20the%20Book%3A&text=A%20Treatment%20presents%20a%20poetic,in%20human%20and%20ecological%20terms.