In this episode, I interview Joe Goettl. Joe started his endurance career as a runner in college over 10 years ago and, since then, has been racing road bikes, gravel bikes, and mountain bikes. He's battled chronic pain since he was 20 and has gone through an impressive journey working through his pain and finding success on the bike. Joe continually repeated, "Don't let good be the enemy of perfect." This phrase shows his resilience and work that has helped him to become the person he is.

Give this episode a listen to dive into what it takes to race gravel at the top.