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The Unexpected Lever
Vivun
47 episodes
1 week ago
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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Marketing
Business
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Is the SDR Role Still Relevant as AI Transforms Sales?
The Unexpected Lever
8 minutes
2 weeks ago
Is the SDR Role Still Relevant as AI Transforms Sales?

Should the SDR role still exist in today’s sales environment?

In this episode, Jarod Greene talks with Kate VanLue, VP of Revenue at AudiencePlus, about why she believes AEs should own the full journey from meeting booked to closed revenue.

Kate shares how the traditional SDR model has shifted into pure volume work that adds little value for sellers or prospects. She explains why compensation plans should reward AEs for carrying opportunities end-to-end, and how AI, events, and human connection are shaping better ways to create pipeline. Her perspective is clear: the future belongs to teams that replace high-volume outreach with real relationships and accountability.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Why the SDR role struggles to add value – High activity doesn’t always equal revenue
  • What happens when AEs own meetings – Better conversion rates, stronger relationships, and cleaner incentives
  • How teams can rethink pipeline generation – Use AI for signals, invest in events, and keep humans at the center

Things to listen for: 

(00:00) Introduction

(01:30) Why AEs outperform when sourcing their own deals

(03:04) Rethinking SDR roles and sales comp strategy

(04:40) Building enterprise sales talent without SDRs

(05:13) How AI changes go-to-market entry roles

(06:09) Why real human connection still matters

The Unexpected Lever
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.