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The Unexpected Lever
Vivun
47 episodes
1 week ago
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.
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Marketing
Business
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Fixing the Broken B2B Buying Journey with James Kaikis, TestBox
The Unexpected Lever
6 minutes
3 months ago
Fixing the Broken B2B Buying Journey with James Kaikis, TestBox

Is your buying experience built for the customer or just convenient for you?

In this episode, Jarod Greene welcomes James Kaikis, CRXO at TestBox, to challenge how SaaS companies treat their customers after the deal closes.

James shares his frustration with buying software today, calling out the friction, the lack of follow-through, and the disappearing act many sales teams pull once a contract is signed. He makes the case that real value doesn’t come from the pitch but from what happens after. His fix? Rethink the roles we’ve boxed people into, especially Solutions Engineers and Account Executives, and bring their genuine expertise across the entire customer journey.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  1. Why trust breaks post-sale – Customers lose confidence when the people who earned their buy-in vanish at go-live.
  2. How Solutions Engineers can drive value beyond the pitch – When SEs stay involved, buyers actually see what they were promised.
  3. What sales teams should prioritize instead – Building credibility, sharing real proof, and sticking with the customer past the close.

Things to listen for: 

(00:00) Introduction

(00:36) Customers aren’t actually the priority

(01:08) Why buying software still sucks

(02:10) Building roles around buyer needs

(02:55) SEs hold untapped post-sale value

(03:53) Fixing the AE credibility problem

(04:33) Growth at all costs broke SaaS

The Unexpected Lever
The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best. Combining vision with execution. Brought to you by Vivun, this show highlights the people and peers behind the brands who understand what it takes to build and lead high-performing sales teams. You’re not just preparing for the sale—you’re unlocking potential. Join us as we share stories of sales leaders who make a difference, their challenges, their wins, and the human connections that drive results, one solution at a time.