With mass panic and hysteria settling in, it’s to no surprise to see how disconnected we have all become from each other, the world we live in and even ourselves. While the imminent threat of the virus is obvious, what has become even more dangerous is our reaction to it. The acceleration of the fear is something that has escalated quicker than the virus itself as speculation quickly transitioned to overkill with nothing in-between. Our dependencies have been comprised, our health remains uncertain and our routines have been interrupted. The question we must all ask ourselves now is; what remains?  Dependency itself is a prison, its predictability pacifies the underlying fear of losing the supposed control that we think we have. We presume that we need the familiarity so the fetish for our fix can be satisfied.  An attachment, once taken away creates confusion which is immediately followed by fear with panic not far behind. We begin to take what we don’t need in excess at the expense of others who are suffering from a deficit. It only makes sense during grim times of black and white that you truly see people’s true colors; the contrast is unmistakable. One must consider especially in times like these how much is my independence restricted from my current dependencies?  Dave and Stelios sit down to discuss what it means to become independently fit at the expense of letting go what we think we need.