Interview with Eetu "sAw" Saha, the coach of Ence, at IEM Sydney 2023. Ence had an ok start to Sydney, beating Lynn vision in a best of 1 then Fnatic in a best of 3, but were 2-0d by G2 and then Faze pretty soundly. After their losses, I climbed in the Truth sauna with with Eetu Saha, aka Saw, the Finnish coach, and chatted all things Ence - where they came from, where they’re going and what it’s going to take to have a peak era.