What do you do when your business fails, the debt piles up, and your wife lands in the ER—just as you’re trying to follow God? In this powerful episode of The Travis Hearn Podcast, Travis sits down with Kap Chatfield—pastor, filmmaker, and entrepreneur—whose path to influence didn’t start with success, but surrender.

Kap shares how God used financial collapse, personal crisis, and total burnout to realign his life and mission. From running a media company to making God his only client, Kap’s story is a roadmap for anyone who feels stuck, unsure, or off-track.

This episode is a raw look at what happens when you stop chasing results and start living Spirit-directed. The fire isn’t there to destroy you—it’s there to reveal what God built in you all along.