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The Transaction
Craig Rosenberg & Matt Amundson | B2B Sales & Marketing Experts - Hosts of The Transaction
72 episodes
17 hours ago
Welcome to The Transaction. The #1 Go-To-Market podcast on the planet. Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson, two legendary go-to-market leaders in their own right, talk weekly with the best sales, marketing, operations, and product leaders in the B2B SaaS world to understand what's working in the new playbook of the post-ZIRP market. But Craig, Matt, and their guests don't just talk theoretically, they share the stories and actionable tips, tactics, and strategies behind what's driving revenue growth that you can take and implement in your own go-to-market roles. Whether you're a Chief Revenue Officer leading a B2B SaaS sales and marketing organization, a marketing leader trying to drive bigger outcomes with your demand gen team, or a new sales rep, you'll learn and laugh every episode. From ABM to PLG, from MEDDIC to MEDDPICC, the world of business is constantly evolving. We’ll cover the who, what, where, when, why and most importantly how you get… The Transaction. About Your Hosts Craig Rosenberg is the Chief Platform Officer at Scale Venture Partners. He is a seasoned expert in B2B revenue growth, helping SaaS companies transition from founder-led growth to becoming high-growth Go-To-Market machines. Previously, Craig was a Distinguished VP Analyst at Gartner and co-founder of TOPO Inc., a research and advisory firm acquired by Gartner in 2020. Craig thinks Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Matt Amundson is the Chief Marketing Officer of DuploCloud. He is also an advisor for companies such as Sendoso and Salesloft. Prior to DuploCloud, Matt spent time as an Executive In Residence with Scale Venture Partners and led marketing departments at Census, Very Good Security, and Everstring, to name a few. Matt thinks Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard. The Transaction is produced by Sam Guertin.
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Welcome to The Transaction. The #1 Go-To-Market podcast on the planet. Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson, two legendary go-to-market leaders in their own right, talk weekly with the best sales, marketing, operations, and product leaders in the B2B SaaS world to understand what's working in the new playbook of the post-ZIRP market. But Craig, Matt, and their guests don't just talk theoretically, they share the stories and actionable tips, tactics, and strategies behind what's driving revenue growth that you can take and implement in your own go-to-market roles. Whether you're a Chief Revenue Officer leading a B2B SaaS sales and marketing organization, a marketing leader trying to drive bigger outcomes with your demand gen team, or a new sales rep, you'll learn and laugh every episode. From ABM to PLG, from MEDDIC to MEDDPICC, the world of business is constantly evolving. We’ll cover the who, what, where, when, why and most importantly how you get… The Transaction. About Your Hosts Craig Rosenberg is the Chief Platform Officer at Scale Venture Partners. He is a seasoned expert in B2B revenue growth, helping SaaS companies transition from founder-led growth to becoming high-growth Go-To-Market machines. Previously, Craig was a Distinguished VP Analyst at Gartner and co-founder of TOPO Inc., a research and advisory firm acquired by Gartner in 2020. Craig thinks Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Matt Amundson is the Chief Marketing Officer of DuploCloud. He is also an advisor for companies such as Sendoso and Salesloft. Prior to DuploCloud, Matt spent time as an Executive In Residence with Scale Venture Partners and led marketing departments at Census, Very Good Security, and Everstring, to name a few. Matt thinks Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard. The Transaction is produced by Sam Guertin.
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How to Implement AI in Your Go-To-Market with Matt Heinz - Ep 54
The Transaction
57 minutes
6 months ago
How to Implement AI in Your Go-To-Market with Matt Heinz - Ep 54

Matt Heinz, the President of Heinz Marketing, is a top 50 Sales & Marketing Influencer and a prolific thought leader in the B2B marketing space. Matt digs into why B2B marketers should invest more in brand as the AI Age progresses, whether the Chief Marketing Officer should report to the Chief Revenue Officer, and why B2B marketers are so terrible at naming products and concepts.


Also, Craig ponders the meaning of parabolas, Matt ranks the best men’s hair in B2B Marketing, and Producer Sam gets confused by Craig talking about bats.


Critical Takeaways

  • Develop a structured approach to AI adoption in Go-To-Market strategies. Instead of engaging in 'random acts of AI,' organizations should create an accountability chart detailing which jobs are better suited for machines and which require human intervention. 
  • Personal connections and credibility can differentiate a brand in a noisy market. Efforts should be made to maintain and build these relationships alongside leveraging scalable technology.
  • While marketing attribution is important, it should not solely focus on credit for past actions. It should be used to create a more predictable and reliable path towards future outcomes. Go to market teams need to look at attribution as a tool for driving the right behaviors and actions, rather than merely analyzing past performance.
  • Signals, including “intent signals”, need to be understood in context and not treated as immediate leads. Revenue teams should use signals to inform their understanding of where a prospect is in the buying journey, rather than assuming all signals indicate readiness to buy. This nuanced understanding can improve targeting and engagement efforts.
  • Even as AI and automation take on more tasks, creativity and strategic thinking remain irreplaceable. Teams should focus on leveraging AI for efficiency while reserving creative and complex problem-solving tasks for human talent. This balance can drive innovation and maintain a competitive edge.


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Chapters

00:00 Episode preview

00:30 Craig Goes Batty and Some Auction Antics

04:13 Introducing Matt Heinz, President of Heinz Marketing

08:07 B2B Marketers are Terrible at Naming Concepts, Products, and Strategies

19:16 Should CMOs Report Up to CROs in B2B SaaS?

22:03 Ranking the Best Hair Amongst Men in B2B & Matt Confesses to Rocking a Mullet

27:27 How Go-To-Market Teams are Using AI & Evolving Their GTM Strategy with AI

37:13 Trust & Personal Relationships are Differentiators in the Age of AI Marketing Tools

42:11 The Role of Data & The Cloud Data Warehouse in B2B Marketing


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Epic Quotes

  • “ We shouldn't be guessing anymore, we should be using the agents to tell us how to improve right away” - Matt Heinz
  • “ If I have more noise and less time, who am I going to prioritize? It's the people I enjoy. It's the people I trust. It's the people I like. That's going to be a huge differentiator moving forward.” - Matt Heinz
  • “ I don't want anybody to think that I'm not down with intent signals. I'm down with signals because right now the hardest thing in the world to do is engage.” - Craig Rosenberg
  • “If you are looking for the solution in the tool, you're bound to fail.” - Matt Amundson


Connect with Matt Heinz

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattheinz/ 
  • Website: https://www.heinzmarketing.com/ 


Shoutouts

  • Bat Tours in Austin: https://www.austintexas.org/things-to-do/outdoors/bat-watching/ 
  • Bert Kreischer’s Raffle Story: https://youtu.be/EsCadHpBdkY?si=GDRoQpWQ9B1Z_55l 
  • Coffee with Brent & Matt: https://www.heinzmarketing.com/events/podcast-coffee-with-brent-adamson-matt-heinz/ 
  • Joe Chernov: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchernov/ 
  • Steve Woods: 
  • Jon Miller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonmiller2/ 
  • Jon’s Episode: https://open.substack.com/pub/thetransaction/p/building-trust-and-reputation-in 
  • Lars Nilsson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanilsson/ 
  • Lars’ Episode: https://open.substack.com/pub/thetransaction/p/setting-up-successful-b2b-saas-sales 
  • Ted Purcell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedpurcell/ 
  • Adam Robinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-robinson-4b156810/ 
  • Adam’s Episode: https://open.substack.com/pub/thetransaction/p/asymmetrical-marketing-and-personal 
  • Anthony Kennada: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akennada/ 
  • Chris Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriswalker171/ 
  • Scott Albro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottalbro/ 
  • Mary Meeker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-meeker-5823ba48/ 
  • Simbe Robotics
  • Mperativ
  • Brent Adamson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentadamson/ 
  • Brent’s Episode: https://thetransaction.substack.com/p/reframing-b2b-sales-to-drive-buyer?r=3iae7z 


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The Transaction
Welcome to The Transaction. The #1 Go-To-Market podcast on the planet. Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson, two legendary go-to-market leaders in their own right, talk weekly with the best sales, marketing, operations, and product leaders in the B2B SaaS world to understand what's working in the new playbook of the post-ZIRP market. But Craig, Matt, and their guests don't just talk theoretically, they share the stories and actionable tips, tactics, and strategies behind what's driving revenue growth that you can take and implement in your own go-to-market roles. Whether you're a Chief Revenue Officer leading a B2B SaaS sales and marketing organization, a marketing leader trying to drive bigger outcomes with your demand gen team, or a new sales rep, you'll learn and laugh every episode. From ABM to PLG, from MEDDIC to MEDDPICC, the world of business is constantly evolving. We’ll cover the who, what, where, when, why and most importantly how you get… The Transaction. About Your Hosts Craig Rosenberg is the Chief Platform Officer at Scale Venture Partners. He is a seasoned expert in B2B revenue growth, helping SaaS companies transition from founder-led growth to becoming high-growth Go-To-Market machines. Previously, Craig was a Distinguished VP Analyst at Gartner and co-founder of TOPO Inc., a research and advisory firm acquired by Gartner in 2020. Craig thinks Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Matt Amundson is the Chief Marketing Officer of DuploCloud. He is also an advisor for companies such as Sendoso and Salesloft. Prior to DuploCloud, Matt spent time as an Executive In Residence with Scale Venture Partners and led marketing departments at Census, Very Good Security, and Everstring, to name a few. Matt thinks Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard. The Transaction is produced by Sam Guertin.