Jaimie Schrock shares her inspiring experiences of preparing for VBAC3 and the impact of using the GentleBirth program. She discusses her previous birth experiences, the use of the GentleBirth app during pregnancy, and the peaceful and blissful nature of her labor and birth. Tracy Donegan shares her personal birth experience and the impact it had on her work as a doula. She emphasizes the importance of mindset, relaxation, and trust in the birthing process. The conversation also covers the challenges and emotional resilience required for VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) and the significance of mindfulness and emotional regulation in childbirth and parenting. Jaimie's book, 'Brave Beautiful Birth,' is discussed, along with the cost-effectiveness of mindfulness-based childbirth programs.