In this episode, Dāli and I wrap up our conversation about immigration.

We talk about debunking stereotypes about immigrants being a financial drain on the economy, why we should all care about politics, and why it is so important to pay attention to who we are getting information from.

We recorded this conversation on July 1, 2025, the very day that the US Senate passed a budget bill that could serve to strip immigrants of even more human rights by increasing funding for ICE and detention centers.

I am very grateful that Dāli was willing to have these conversations knowing what is at risk in our country today.

Thanks so much for listening.