What if the safest, most stress-free position in real estate wasn’t owning the property... but funding it? In this episode, we sit down with Jean Klinkhamer, founder of Klink Loans in Phoenix, AZ. Jean shares how he went from getting whooped in the 2008 crash to becoming a first-position lender, running a successful private lending fund that helps investors earn double-digit returns — all while supporting local real estate growth. Jean talks candidly about: The lessons he learned the hard way in the real estate crash How he found freedom through lending Trends in today’s real estate market and where things are headed Why Arizona is one of the most exciting — and challenging — states for private money If you’re an active investor looking to slow down, or a passive one seeking consistent income with low risk, this episode is packed with insights you don’t want to miss. 🎧 👉 Whether you want to borrow smart or invest smarter, this conversation might change how you think about building wealth through real estate. For more information, visit KlinkLoans.com if you're a borrower or if you're an investor, visit KlinkLoansInvestors.com.