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In this episode, I welcome back John Sanders, founder of RevKey, to break down what testing psychologists need to know about Google Ads in 2025. A lot has changed since John was first on the podcast five years ago—Performance Max campaigns are replacing traditional search campaigns, costs per click have shifted, AI is starting to shape the search market, and the rules for writing effective ads are more nuanced than ever. John explains how testing practices can get a strong ROI, what pitfalls to avoid, and why thinking like your clients (not like a psychologist) is key when writing ads and website copy. If you’ve ever wondered whether Google Ads are worth it for your practice, this conversation brings the numbers and strategies into focus.
Main Topics Covered
* What has changed in Google Ads over the last 5 years
* The shift from keyword-based search campaigns to Performance Max campaigns
* Why testing psychologists often have an advantage in Google Ads compared to therapy practices
* How much a private practice should expect to spend each month
* The importance of website structure and content for ad success
* Key metrics to track to know if your ads are working
* Common pitfalls that sabotage campaigns
* ROI potential for testing practices (and why it’s often higher than in therapy)
* The role of AI in search and advertising—and what’s coming next
* Advice for DIY advertisers vs. working with an agency
* Writing ad and website copy in client-friendly language
Cool Things Mentioned
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The Testing Psychologist mastermind groups and business consulting
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Reverb AI report-writing software
* RevKey (John’s company):
https://revkey.com
* Google Ads Performance Max campaigns:
https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/10724817
* Google Ads ROI Calculator from RevKey (provided by John):
https://revkey.com/roi-calculator
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