I was ecstatic to sit down with journalist Isaac Saul. His newsletter and podcast, Tangle, have become my primary source of news. And that is saying a lot for a news junkie like me.

I found him truly to be politically up the middle. And since I toured a political show called The Man in The Middle, his takes in this episode resonated deeply with me.

We covered many questions including the political makeup of his ever-increasing audience, what kind of praise he finds the most meaningful, what kind of criticism drives him crazy, which part of the process feels like work, which party is doing the most to help (and hurt) the average American, whether Donald Trump's supporters really believe he can fix the country, and more.

But we started with, "Why did you name your show Tangle?" Enjoy.