Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
408 - Andrew Gould & Michael Diamant - Architecture: The Most Important Art
The Symbolic World
1 hour 12 minutes
2 months ago
408 - Andrew Gould & Michael Diamant - Architecture: The Most Important Art
In this conversation I’m joined by Andrew Gould and Michael Diamant to explore the importance of traditional architecture and city planning. We discuss why so much of our built environment feels alienating, how modernism abandoned human proportion and beauty, and why recovering classical forms matters for culture, community, and even our spiritual lives.
Michael shares the story of the Architecture Uprising movement across Europe, and Andrew explains how he approaches designing buildings that are rooted in tradition yet alive for today. Together we reflect on how beauty is not just a luxury—it’s essential for human flourishing.
Architects, go to https://newtrad.org/ Follow Michael on X / Twitter: https://x.com/michael_diamant Andrew Gould's website: https://newworldbyzantine.com/ Follow Andrew on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.gould.1401
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Timestamps: 00:00 - Coming up 00:48 - Intro music 01:13 - Introduction 06:14 - What's great about ugly architecture? 09:27 - Politics 10:51 - The Brutalist 13:03 - City planning 15:28 - Density 20:28 - What is driving the madness? 27:03 - The options for architects 30:17 - What architecture is today 34:26 - Classical beauty 40:10 - Bad classical architecture 45:52 - Defending your culture 51:05 - Andrew Gould's work 01:01:02 - Architectural fashion 01:04:58 - The film industry
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The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.