In this episode, Kris and Dan welcome Jamie Simonsen, a seasoned technology leader with a fascinating background in engineering and leadership. Jamie shares his unconventional self-taught journey to becoming a VP of Engineering, emphasizing the value of hands-on experience, continuous learning, and a problem-solving mindset in his career development. Whether you're an aspiring technology leader, a startup founder, or simply passionate about the intersection of engineering and leadership, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge and practical insights from Jamie's unique perspective.