The conversation revolves around the concept of the hero's journey and personal growth. KC Jones reflects on his own journey as a professional football player and the lessons he learned about being a good teammate. He also discusses the impact of CTE on football players and the importance of taking care of one's mental health. The conversation ends with a discussion about letting go of armor and embracing vulnerability. In this conversation, KC Jones and The Suicide Monk discuss their experiences with psychedelics and the profound impact it has had on their lives. They talk about the power of psychedelics in providing meaningful and purposeful experiences, as well as the importance of community and connection in overcoming pain and suffering. They also touch on the topics of suicide, the role of parents in shaping our lives, and the transformative power of love. Overall, the conversation highlights the potential of psychedelics in promoting personal growth, healing, and spiritual awakening.