How do the skills you learn in one industry set you up for future career success in another? Both Ezra Englebardt and Matt Rainone started inside ad agencies working on planning and strategy. Now, they're both in house at CVS Health moving forward complex and occasionally sensitive comms efforts, using some of those same skills. In this conversation, you'll hear how they think about their time in agencies and how they value the lessons they learned there in their day to day. This conversation is graciously hosted by former guest, friend of the show, talented strategy consultant and good person™ - Kaitlin Maud-Moon!!!

You can find Matt Rainone on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Matt_Rainone
Find Ezra Englebardt there as well: https://twitter.com/ezra802
Find Kaitlin at: https://kaitlinmaud.com/ Kaitlin - sincere thanks for hosting this conversation. 

Thanks to the three voices heard in this episode for getting together a second time after Adam dropped the meat in the dirt with the recording. 

But wait? Where the hell is Adam? He's been working on a new show, In the Demo, all about the origins of the Millennial Myth. You can listen here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-demo/id1655565898. He'll be back for the next episode and you'll be hearing more from Kaitlin and maybe some other voices.