This week we have Phil Southward, an IT Contractor and one of the early investors in Xero. Phil has had a rich career working in NZ and Germany embracing the gig economy before the phrase was coined. If you are interested in learning about agile systems of working, What it's like to live in Germany and try a contractors’ life, and what can happen if you don’t wait and be patient - this conversation is for you. Here is a story to challenge your perspectives on the normal career path